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Post by bufftabby on Nov 23, 2010 16:13:53 GMT -6
They're so cute when they don't know anything.
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Post by bufftabby on Nov 23, 2010 23:05:49 GMT -6
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Post by hoopyfrood on Nov 24, 2010 13:24:06 GMT -6
Heh, heh.
I love Pleo's interpretation of "help out" indicating "out" being used as a verb (i.e. "reveal"), whereas Mahaloth's intent was no doubt to mean "out" being used as a preposition.
Especially since mahaloth is scum.
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Post by bufftabby on Nov 24, 2010 15:59:55 GMT -6
I even initially read it the way Pleo did, but that may have been some sort of confirmation bias on my part.
I thought Tarot "canon" would lend itself well to mafia, as there are no clearly bad or good cards, and their meanings are vague enough not to give any indication of a role, while still matching roles to cards. I didn't put in a straightforward detective or doc either, because I think people tend to rely too heavily on power roles to do the lifting. Town's best strategy is going to be to play this without worrying too much about powers. I think it's gonna be fun. I wish I could play it!
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Post by redskeezix on Nov 24, 2010 16:15:30 GMT -6
I'm in.
1. For a competitive survivor to win, they have to out live the other one? 1a. Does this mean that they will vanish from the game once the other survivor is dead?
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Post by bufftabby on Nov 24, 2010 16:30:37 GMT -6
They have to survive until the end, and be the only living Survivor.
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Post by bufftabby on Nov 28, 2010 21:18:03 GMT -6
Speaking of Survivors, if Hockey Monkey sticks with her current guess, she's got her enemy's name before the game even begins. I'm impressed.
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Post by sachertorte on Nov 30, 2010 16:31:35 GMT -6
For Posterity, I sent the following to bufftabby after I found out I was dead:
I'm kind of surprised that I died, but sort of happy about it too. I would have thought that people understand that I'm terrible at finding scum. I'm good at analyzing games and the implications of powers, but not so good at finding scum, except for NAF. I wonder if my death means he is scum. I did briefly consider posting just before Dawn that if I died that Town should lynch NAF. Too bad Civilization V came out for the Mac last week, or I might have remembered to try it. It is probably better that I didn't. Not really fair to NAF, and would really muff things up if I were wrong.
With all the "suspicions" being tossed at me during the Night for flat out defending the idea that silence during Night Zero was a defensible strategy, I'm surprised scum would kill me when a lynch was a possible play for Day One. But now that I think about it, I'm usually a big target for investigation as well. And with the Night Zero discussion I made myself a target for town powers. Killing off a potential investigatee is a good plan for scum too. If I recall correctly, I pushed the notion that random targets on Night Zero are optimal. If tons of Townies targeted me I want to send each one a personal "Ha Ha"
If Town killed me, I will be pissed. That's just terrible play.
As for the Major Arcana. I stand by my reasoning. I was Card V. The sample PM was labeled XXIII. The logical conclusion is that most everyone is I through XXII, the Major Arcana Cards. That doesn't make me special in any significant way. What it does is make people who are NOT Major Arcana special.
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Post by bufftabby on Nov 30, 2010 20:17:05 GMT -6
For posterity, it gave me a major case of the giggles.
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Post by sachertorte on Dec 3, 2010 9:35:00 GMT -6
I'm not against lynching Pleo either, but if he's telling the truth, it's a mislynch, if he's lying and he's a power role, it's a worse mislynch. If he's scum, then of course it would be a boon. I could see a scum Pleo using the ploy especially since he "always" does it and getting away with it. So why isn't Rysto, a good player, questioning it more than he has. Therefore my vote for him at this time. Ridiculous. (1) If Pleonast is Town, then questioning it would be a SCUM move. How Hockey Monkey can simultaneously think that they shouldn't lynch Pleonast but that Rysto should be questioning Pleonast makes no sense. (2) I explicitly stated that I didn't think Pleonast's reveal meant anything. I'm dead and shown to be Town. What gives?
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Post by hoopyfrood on Dec 3, 2010 12:57:24 GMT -6
Interesting that Guiri has pings from three of the scum. He's one of the most intuitive players I've seen play this game (cf. BillMC), and has been so since his first game.
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Post by mahaloth on Dec 12, 2010 11:57:53 GMT -6
Still pissed that I got last minute ousted on a Saturday. Oh, well, I guess that is the way it goes.
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Post by bufftabby on Dec 12, 2010 15:33:47 GMT -6
Yeah, I was pretty surprised by that. Then again, I was surprised by how much attention Hockey Monkey had garnered. I never did quite figure out what the case on her was supposed to be. Of course, I'm skimming... Clearly a scum tell.
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Post by hoopyfrood on Dec 17, 2010 14:16:21 GMT -6
I'm really not understanding the whole story thing.
It's a null tell. It's really that simple. Both scum and town and 3rd party would want to get a voting restriction of that type out in the open. And scum wouldn't lie about something like that because there's no benefit. Scum make mistakes, but they don't pull gambits that don't have benefit. Neither do town for that matter. His claim does nothing to buy himself credibility, so there's no reason to lie. So yeah, this is a case where "scum would never do that" (I.e. lie about such a thing).
I also don't understand anyone who's giving him townie credit for coming out. Because there's no credit to be given. Scum have great motivation to come out with something like this. This whole thing is a paragon of the null tell.
He's got a restriction, guys. This indicates nothing other than he's got a restriction. And CIAS should shower that scum off of himself.
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Post by billmc on Dec 21, 2010 14:26:22 GMT -6
Ah well. The momentum on crazypunker grew rather quickly, with both total and reneta making a point of stating and restating that they agreed with my case - that rattled my scumdar on both of them. I was going to vote total today.
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Post by hoopyfrood on Jan 3, 2011 12:33:12 GMT -6
The communicating masons (i.e. witches) are crazy good this time around. They've pretty much fingered every remaining scum out there.
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Post by billmc on Jan 7, 2011 8:32:27 GMT -6
Well I hope they can make some good cases, coz Story seems to be doing a fine job of being a lightning rod, and SisC isnt far behind him
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Post by bufftabby on Jan 7, 2011 14:43:47 GMT -6
If somebody would just ask me in the game thread about what "no posting restrictions" is supposed to mean, I feel like I could pretty diplomatically and fairly clarify things. But if no one asks, I can't answer...
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Post by billmc on Jan 8, 2011 5:49:53 GMT -6
yeah - that would seem to be an obvious thing for the town to ask; but obviously in the scum interest not to clarify the point
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Post by billmc on Jan 8, 2011 5:52:41 GMT -6
tho i still dont get why story is making such a meal of it -- his only restriction (as i read it) is that he cant cast the first vote on someone. so he's still capable voting - so he should.
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