Night 0

[Total Ullz]

I've made the wiki-page here:
mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Renata_%28Normal_Phase%29

I've not read all Night 0 yet. Been kind of busy with RL-stuff. But I'll go and see what has been said and why.

Also PMed the Mod to get a better idea of what my power can do.

[Total Ullz]

If you knew there are 22 Major Arcana Cards and 56 Minor Arcana Cards and you were a power role given a Major Arcana Card would you not assume that powers, scum and PFKs could be Major Arcana Cards while vanilla might be Minor Arcana Cards?
I would.

The only way I would write stuff like this:

(The above discussion implies that I have a Major Arcana identity, which I do. I assume almost everyone does. However, by the numbers probably not everyone does. If you don't, you should probably not speak up about it until an opportune time arises, which is most certainly not now.)

Would be if I was a vanilla. Then again... it might be a big WiFoM.

[renata]

Sachertorte is pretty straightforward, so I would guess that you are right.

[renata]

(Also, thanks for the page and the compliments )

[Total Ullz]

Nov 24, 2010 9:11:53 GMT -6 renata said:

Sachertorte is pretty straightforward, so I would guess that you are right.

If I am it's rather ironical... that Sachertorte gave away that kind of information Night O ;D

[Total Ullz]

Nov 24, 2010 9:12:34 GMT -6 renata said:

(Also, thanks for the page and the compliments )

You're welcome

[mahaloth]

My current suggestion:

Block: Pleonast
Kill: Pleonast
Redirect: ? Not sure about this.

[naf1138]

I think Pleo will serve as a useful distraction for a Day or two and isn't the immediate threat to us that sach would be. Story would be a good kill for similar reasons, but he is so busy with life stuff right now that I am not worried.

Pleo will have to die, but I don't know that now is the best time.

[Total Ullz]

My only problem with that is that Pleonast tends to create distractions.
That might work in favour of us.

I'd rather we killed someone with less posts and therefore less for town to look at.

[renata]

I tend to agree that Pleonast is not likely to be an immediate threat. We could roleblock him, though, if it would make Mahaloth feel better. The odds of hitting a dangerous town power with the block are probably not substantially better than the odds that Pleonast is lying his teeth off with that vanilla business.

Whoever has the redirect, is that a basic "make X target Y instead of whoever X intended to target" power?

[Total Ullz]

Nov 24, 2010 14:00:07 GMT -6 renata said:

Whoever has the redirect, is that a basic "make X target Y instead of whoever X intended to target" power?

I was told something along the line of:
You will say something like "redirect x to y Night zero". And then you'll wait and hope for good stuff to happen

[mahaloth]

If not Pleonast, then Ed?

I mean, we should go for strong players since we have no real direction.

Or peeker, I guess.

[naf1138]

Right, which is why I am saying sach. I don't think there is a stronger player in the game and I know that he has my number as scum.

[mahaloth]

Block and kill sach, then?

I guess I can get behind that. I still think Pleonast is not vanilla, despite his claim. I still think Pleo is the top kill.

[catinasuit]

Good grief, some people are talkative.

I'm trying to remember if Pleonast is oine of the people who thinks Town should not lie, in which case it is very, very likely a vanilla role.

People I would like to see dead on Night 1.
III. billmc
XII. storyteller
XIV. mhaye
XVII. guiri
XVIII. brewha
XIX. sachertorte
XXIV. rysto
XXVI. special ed

That's not to say the others are not good players, but these are the ones I would prefer notto be around.

My personal pick for toNight would be either from sachertorte, billmc and guiri.

I would also expect an SK out there as well BTW, and I really would hate to start overlapping. This would be because without any outside interference, we need 8 mislynches to pull this off. Should be fun to try and achieve.

One other thing to consider. Overlapping powers is not a good idea.
Performing a block/kill on someone every Night wastes a roleblocker and is only worth it on a self protecting doctor. Besides if we find a doctor, the redirect will come in much more useful.

Personally, I would go with the following:

renata kill sachertorte
CIAS track billmc
mahaloth block guiri
ulla redirect from special ed to peekercpa
NAF1138 sit back and relax

What do you think?


BuffTabby: do you mind if we put a full list of actions in here instead of PMing all of them.

[Total Ullz]

The list makes sense to me and I agree that all players on it should go as quick as possible.

This early in the game I'm still learning towards blocking our kill. But it might just be the paranoid side of me - since we had Night 1 and Night 2 with no kills in the last game.

But the redirect from Ed to Peekercpa looks fine to me.

[catinasuit]

Urk, I just re-read NAF's Role again. Maybe he should definitely be doing the killing as he cannot be seen to do the killing. What this does mean is that the Light has a watcher in the ranks, but not necessarily a tracker, because that would make a mockery of NAF's given power.

Of course, there is likely to be a reason as to why he should not carry out the kill as well. Hmm.

I will point out that the only reason to block a kill at Night is if the person is the Doc and is self protecting. Ok, maybe a redirector as well.

[bufftabby]

Nov 25, 2010 3:07:29 GMT -6 catinasuit said:

BuffTabby: do you mind if we put a full list of actions in here instead of PMing all of them.

The person with the role will need to be the one who posts the action for it, and specifically indicate "Night [X]". Kills and the performers thereof need to be voted on if it becomes contentious. Otherwise, a single green, bolded, and Night-specific post will be fine.

[mahaloth]

OK, let's kill sach, then.

[naf1138]

Nov 25, 2010 3:07:29 GMT -6 catinasuit said:

Personally, I would go with the following:

renata kill sachertorte
CIAS track billmc
mahaloth block guiri
ulla redirect from special ed to peekercpa
NAF1138 sit back and relax

What do you think?

I like this list, but I think I should make the kill since I am untrackable.

Otherwise I think we are set.